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    Posted: 29 March 2010 at 5:53pm
Hi folks, I am new here.  I have a brand new snare drum that I am selling locally.  It has been sitting brand new in the box for a few years or so.  Anyways, it was just identified by Gretsch as a 6x13 New Classic prototype.  So since it is an original, I have no way of knowing what to charge for it.  I am clueless!  Can anyone here help me?  I was reading your forums a couple of days ago, and you were all soo helpful!
 
When I get home tonight from work I will install my photo editor.   And post some pics.  It appears my pics are too big.
 
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  Quote Granstar26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:16pm
Hard to tell without pics. Also note, this is a dismal time to be selling gear. it isnt fetching the $ like it normally does on ebay for example. 

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The year of the drum, a picture and description of shell material is gonna be essential for us all to help. Big smile
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  Quote Drobac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:47pm
And probably location, since music equipment is a lot cheaper in the US than in Europe. ;)
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  Quote candes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:53pm
Thanx for the welcome!  Yes it must be dismal.  No one is biting on any of my new stuff. :(  I am running out the door for work right now.   But I did manage to get the pics on photobucket.
 
The shell is 10 ply maple in a natural finnish.  I am in the US.  The year I am clueless about.  But I got it in 2006.   And obviously it was right before the New Classics came out.  It may have been a few years old already when Gretsch sent it to me.
 
 
 
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  Quote Stefan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2010 at 7:29pm
Whoa.. It looks killer and seems to be in mint condition. All I can say is it would be about $700-900 in a drum store here in Sweden, but probably a lot chaper in the states... can't help you beyond that..

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  Quote robdog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:32am
It's not American made. No USA on the badge. I have one with a badge just like that.
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Same badge on mine.
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  Quote candes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2010 at 5:33am
Thanx for the help.   Was your price in US dollars?   I listed it for $280 US dollars, and only one person replied.  He offererd me $175 for it, but only if itwas US made.  I was wondering if I over priced it. 
 
Still not sure what would be a fair price here in the US.     Does being a prototype add to or reduce the value?  The Classics go for $420 here in the US.  But they are US made.
 
About the not being made in US business.  I am confused as to why they would make a prototype in tawain vs the US.  
 
Maybe I should just hold on to this stuff for a bit longer?    Heck I tried to sell a Brand new Sabian XS2 Cymbal set for $325 (retail $460 plus tax), and not a single person bit.    Even a massive $165 Pro stick package for $100 (All in their packages or wrappers. )   A store owner could have even bought this and made money.  I even figured they would talk me down lower.  But not a single person was interested.  Geez....
 
 
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  Quote Granstar26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2010 at 3:44pm
The prototype situation makes it pretty cool, but how different is it from the actual production line this drum prototyped? If it has notable differences that makes the drum unique, maybe some gretsch collector will find it and want it. That size and material drum is competing with the tama artwood, very well built, nicely finished at a really reasonable price. The thing yours offers over the tama is the gretsch name (which apparently is only valid when built in the USA for some strange reason), and diecasts. I would say, $225 to $250 when the market is strong and people are buying again. 
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  Quote candes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2010 at 7:05pm
Thanx for all your help everyone!  I guess I wasn't too far off the mark in pricing.  Maybe this is something I should hold on to for 20 more years and turn it into an unused antique.  I really don't need the money, just the space. 
 
And Robdog, your drum is very awesome!  It was your drum that brought me here in the first place.  And made me realize I may have a prototype, and to email Gretsch.  This thing sat in a box for years since I had no clue what to sell it for.  I could find nothing like it.   I almost want to start collecting drums because some are so beautiful.  I would if I had the space to display tehm.
 
My husband is in a rock band, but his friends tell me this is more for the jazz band folks.  (I am a musician too.)  How we got this is a unique story.  My husband wanted to start playing the drums, and I win sweepstakes pretty easily.  So when he said this, I ran out and won him some stuff.  Ok, so he was just thinking about it.  LOL....  I won him even more un-useful stuff too.  LOL....  For example, he has like 3 microphone set ups.  So I won him a professional encrypted and totally interference free wireless mic worth $400.  Now he doesn't want something soo good.  He should be grateful.  LOL....  So now I have to sell that too.  And tons of other stuff.  Sigh... 
 
Thank you all for helping me.  And I will be back to your nice forum. :)
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  Quote robdog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2010 at 1:18am
Could you win me some nice stuff also? I'm glad I could help out by bringing you to this forum and good luck on the sale of your snare.
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  Quote Granstar26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2010 at 2:58am
13  inchers are not really jazzy, more rock and stuff. lots of pop and cut. I drum metal, and all my main snares are deep 13 inchers. 
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  Quote robdog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2010 at 4:15am
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13  inchers are not really jazzy, more rock and stuff. lots of pop and cut. I drum metal, and all my main snares are deep 13 inchers. 
My 13" Fibes is very sensitive and would probably be very good for jazzy type stuff. The blue snare above is also very sensitive but it is a 14" and has some serious crack to it.
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  Quote Dardrum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 April 2010 at 7:00am
Originally posted by Granstar26

13  inchers are not really jazzy, more rock and stuff. lots of pop and cut. I drum metal, and all my main snares are deep 13 inchers. 
It seems the general trend  in the last few years is 13" snares are most popular period. In music metal, pop, jazz, you name it just the deepths vary to music types deep for metal, shallow for jazzBig smile just sayin,,,,one of these days I might even get oneEmbarrassed
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  Quote Granstar26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 April 2010 at 1:47pm
Dar, you NEED  a 13 incher (get a sweet deep one)
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  Quote dunadan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 April 2010 at 3:59am
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Originally posted by Granstar26

13  inchers are not really jazzy, more rock and stuff. lots of pop and cut. I drum metal, and all my main snares are deep 13 inchers. 
It seems the general trend  in the last few years is 13" snares are most popular period. In music metal, pop, jazz, you name it just the deepths vary to music types deep for metal, shallow for jazzBig smile just sayin,,,,one of these days I might even get oneEmbarrassed
Resist the urge.  Snare drums are 14" in diameter, no more, no less.  Anything else is a tom with snares.Angry

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  Quote AJKenny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 April 2010 at 8:58am
I don't even own a 14 incher anymore.
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This will change soon though, when I will eventually invest in some sort of maple 14x8
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  Quote Granstar26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 April 2010 at 3:22pm
I built a few 14 inchers ,and i just cant take to em. MY sound is from a deep 13. 7 or 8 inches deep.
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  Quote powerbomb91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2010 at 2:30am
ond day ..i will own a 13x5 and a 13 X 7 40 ply's with big ass vents.....
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